【键盘侠】名嘴:勇士获胜只因KD表现比哈登更好

近日名嘴比尔-西蒙斯谈到火勇大战，他阐述了自己的看法：我们可以连续24小时一直讨论裁判的问题——我们也确实这么做了，但是所有人都没有关注到比赛的重点在哪里。勇士能赢完全只是因为杜兰特在下半场的表现完爆了哈登。这不是2002年国王和湖人的系列赛，远远谈不上裁判阴谋论。

NBACladSad2.2k points·9 hours ago

James Harden did have a really bad game so.....

哈登只是真的打得烂而已…

回复：RaptorsThaNorth315points·9 hours ago

And Warriors completely took out Capela too. Not enough is beingmade of that.

还有勇士全队将卡佩拉完全限制了，打成那样的表现赢球肯定是不可能的。

回复：Celticsclumsynoah86points·8 hours ago

Yeah,after Capela steamrolled Gobert it’s like the Rockets have to be a differentteam this series.

说的对，卡佩拉在第一轮和戈贝尔对抗后，火箭应该表现的更加不同才对。

回复：Knicksalexyxray149points·6 hours ago

every big man goes through cycles where he's hailed as theanchor of his team only to have that turn on them when they play 2 playoffgames straight without doing much.

See: Adams, Steven

所有大个子都在经历一个相同的循环，常规赛作为球队之锚获得球迷的喜爱，然后季后赛开始发现并没有什么作用。

例子：亚当斯。

回复：Warriorsmanisier71points·6 hours ago

Jokic haters licking their lips

约基奇是个例外。

回复：Trail BlazersIsMiseOzz893points·9 hours ago

19 missed shots

哈登铁了19个…

回复：ClippersOk_Maize977points·8 hours ago

It's because he misses shots when he tries to draw the foul. Ifthere's a defender near him, he just starts leaning backwards so he can falldown after he shoots. They really need to look at this in the off-season.Imagine if every player started doing this.

那些没进的球是因为哈登在尝试造犯规，一旦有防守者贴近，哈登就会试着在投篮结束后向后倒。联盟高层真的应该在休赛期好好审视一下这个风气，如果所有球员都开始学习这个不敢想象。

回复：elroypedro679 points·8 hours ago

If every player started flopping like Harden the league would beruined

如果所有球员都像哈登那样骗犯规，这个联盟会毁掉。

回复：ben707516274 points·7 hours ago

There was a thing on this sub not to long ago about the freethrough revolution is going to be the next thing, where basically getting tothe line will be the focus of teams, and I think we saw the beginning of thatyesterday

不久前还有个帖子说以后每支球队都会关注如何让球员站上罚球线。我觉得昨天的比赛很好地证实了这一点。

回复：SupersonicsThisIsntRael375points·7 hours ago

It's already been the focus for harden and cp3 for years

哈登和保罗很多年前就已经非常关注站上罚球线了。

回复：RaptorsklaysDoodle205points·6 hours ago

Let's be real here, if any NBA player thinks they can get a foulthey'll take it. When it becomes an integral part of your game then it's aproblem.

说实话，任何NBA球员只要看到有机会可以搏到罚球机会都会毫不犹豫去尝试的，当这种心态变成比赛的一部分后问题就出现了。

回复：Timberwolvesygduf273points·6 hours ago

when your gameplan starts to include exploiting the refereesinstead of playing basketball, it's a problem. It's against the spirit of thegame and fair competition.

当你的球队计划包括利用裁判来获得胜利后，这就是问题。这违背了篮球精神和竞技体育的宗旨。

回复：Cptcongcong48 points·6 hours ago

Well tanking was against the spirit of the game but teams did itanyway. They will still take part in it.

照你这么说，摆烂也违背体育精神呢，但每年不还是有那么多队伍摆烂。

回复：wtf8821143 points·6 hours ago

Nobody tanks in the playoffs but the disgusting flopping act ofthe Rockets continues. That is why people hate it. And because it makes forvery unattractive basketball.

没有人会在季后赛摆烂，但是火箭让哈登不断骗犯规的策略真的让人难受，这也是人们为啥会痛恨这个行为，篮球比赛因为这些变得没有了观赏性。

BigDub631.2k points·8 hours ago

The craziest thing about it is Harden is trying to draw fouls onshots he can make. The last of the game is no time to flail for a foulespecially when you’re at the actual top of the arc

最疯狂的事情是哈登在利用所有投篮试着造犯规。在比赛的最后已经明显没有时间给他造犯规了，尤其是你还是在弧顶投三分。

回复：Sweeps505500 points·8 hours ago

It's true.

That last second shot where he beat GS this season, he hadmultiple defenders on him but just tried to score. And he did.

Last regular season game vs Thunder, his last shot he tried todraw a foul, didn't get the call and missed the shot.

You think he'd learn, but when drawing fouls is your firstinstinct...

说的对

哈登绝杀勇士那场球，他面前有多个防守者，但他仍然尝试得分，最后他成功了。

常规赛最后一场打雷霆，最后时刻哈登试着造犯规，然而裁判没有理他，那球也没投进。

我觉得哈登应该明白些什么了，但是他的第一选择仍然还是造犯规…

回复：WarriorsOtherwise_Window160points·6 hours ago

If I were a Rockets fan I'd have found that game utterlyinfuriating.

Harden balled out of his mind, and legit won that game in Oraclefor the Rockets without flopping constantly, he just showed how genuinelytalented and skilled he is.

If he did that every game, he'd be well-liked and the Rocketswould only be moderately hated (you still have Chris Paul).

如果我是火箭球迷，我会非常生气。

哈登豪气冲天的时候可以在甲骨文球馆绝杀勇士，那样的他不用靠骗犯规，只是单纯的用天赋和球技征服了球迷。

如果哈登每场比赛都是如此，他会非常令人欢迎，火箭也不会那么让人讨厌（你们仍然有保罗）。

回复：RocketsDaroo425118points·8 hours ago

That pissed me off so much. He had Dray beat and a good look.Take a normal shot and you have a good chance of making it.

His mind goes to "Well they missed some calls earlier sothey will make it up, right?" instead of just being the great player he isand that's his downfall as a player.

对，这样的哈登让我很火大，他面对格林的防守打爆他，投出正常的投篮，你是有机会创造奇迹的。

但是哈登的脑子里想的都是：“好吧，裁判之前漏判好几个犯规所以接下来他们会补回来。”这样的想法取代了成为最好的球员。

Lakersso-cal_kid892points·9 hours ago

Agree with this. KD is playing like the best player in the leagueright now. That's why they won.

非常同意，KD打得就像是联盟第一人，这就是勇士赢的原因。

回复：[TOR] Jonas Valanciunassilkyjohnson6420points·9 hours ago

KD is playing out of his mind. Ever since game 2 of the clipperseries he has been unstoppable on offense.

Kawhi has been almost as unstoppable on that end while being anabsolute monster on defense.

Those two are playing like the best players in the world rightnow and are putting on some of the most impressive individual displays I'veever seen. Just dominant.

杜兰特状态热得发烫。自从首轮G2以后杜兰特变得不可阻挡。

小卡进攻端同样也非常出色，防守端他也是个怪物。

他俩是现在地球上最棒的篮球运动员，他们都打出了另人印象深刻的个人表演。这就是统治力。

ThunderSleepyEel96 points·9 hours ago

Morey just unfriended Simmons for this

莫雷把比尔-西蒙斯拉黑。

Celticsthekingamw706 points·9 hours ago

On his pod him and his guest had some solid points.

They said something along the lines of:

The rule is to give shooters landing space. But Paul and Hardenare jumping 3 feet forward to try to define their own landing space.

比尔-西蒙斯和其他嘉宾都保持着相同观点。

他们解读了规则：规则是为了保证投篮者的空间不被侵犯，但是哈登和保罗向前跳3尺来划定他们的投篮空间。

[TOR] Kyle LowryCat_guy172.2k points·9 hours ago

This is what happens when your best player's entire gameplanrelys on manipulating the refs

这就是你的当家球星比赛计划是通过裁判来实现时而造成的结果。

回复：WarriorsXenocidegs396points·9 hours ago

Moreyball has followed the natural evolution in that the mostefficient shot is going to the foul line since 2 free throws is 1.5 points fora 75% FT shooter.

Unfortunately hunting for fouls ruins the game for fans ofbasketball but the rockets don't care as long as it improves their chances ofwinning.

魔球理论提到了造犯规站上罚球线是最高效的得分方式，两次罚球相当于一个75%命中率投手得到1.5分。

不幸的是，这种争取犯规的方式毁掉了球迷喜欢的比赛，但是火箭并不在乎这些，因为这样能获得胜利。

KeepinItRealGuy152 points·8 hours ago

This whole thing is so fucking stupid. Play the fucking game andshut up. You lost because the other team was better. You blew it. Not the refs.Pay the game to score, not to fool the refs to shoot FTs.

It's funny because pretty much the entire basketball communityoutside of warrior fans were rooting for the rockets, but it only took one gamefor everyone to get sick of their shit.

所有的这些太愚蠢了。能不能就是简单的打球然后闭嘴，你输了因为另一支球队更出色。你搞砸了这场比赛，不是裁判的问题。把注意力放到分数上，而不是造犯规。

很有趣的一个现象是所有非勇士球迷都在支持火箭，但是一场比赛过后大家都被这样的比赛喂翔了。

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